Bob Dylan and… David Bowie

by Aaron Galbraith

There is an excellent podcast called “Bowie vs Dylan” (www.bowievsdylan.com) where two brothers finally answer one of philosophy’s greatest questions: who’s better, David Bowie or Bob Dylan?

Each episode covers one year of releases, concerts and reissues – a winner is decided for the act who had the best year. Great episodes include “Ep 25: 1987 – Never Let Me Down vs. Hearts of Fire” which asks an interesting question, which would you rather listen to, the worst of Dylan or the worst of Bowie? As a big fan of both, it’s a hard question to answer but for 1987 they decided Dylan had the better year (for me, I’d rather listen to “Never Let Me Down” over “Hearts of Fire”).

Check the website for future episodes and for the tally so far (currently its Bowie 12 – Dylan 10).

It is easy to see that Bowie was a Dylan fan early on in his career, his second album “Space Oddity” contains a number of Dylanesque moments in tracks such as “Unwashed and Somewhat Slightly Dazed”, “Letter To Hermione” and “Wild Eyed Boy From Freecloud”.

Bowie’s fourth album (and possibly his best) “Hunky Dory” came in 1971 and contained the track “Song For Bob Dylan”.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPxnCNRm_nY

Dylan wrote in “Chronicles”:

“I found myself stuck in Woodstock, vulnerable and with a family to protect. If you looked in the press, though, you saw me being portrayed as anything but that. It was surprising how thick the smoke had become. It seems like the world has always needed a scapegoat—someone to lead the charge against the Roman Empire. But America wasn’t the Roman Empire and someone else would have to step up and volunteer…Now it had blown up in my face and was hanging over me. I wasn’t a preacher performing miracles. It would have driven anybody mad.”

In an interview in Melody Maker in 1976 Bowie said, “It was at that period that I said, ‘Okay, Dylan, if you don’t want to do it, I will.’ I saw that leadership void”. Bowie’s song begins by directly referencing “Song To Woody” and so sets himself up to be Dylan’s heir presumptive:

Ah, here she comes 
Here she comes, here she comes again 
The same old painted lady 
From the brow of the superbrain… 

Oh, hear this Robert Zimmerman
I wrote a song for you
About a strange young man called Dylan
With a voice like sand and glue
Some words had truthful vengeance
That could pin us to the floor
Brought a few more people on
And put the fear in a whole lot more

The pair met a few times throughout the 70s and 80s, although it is alleged that Dylan was rude to Bowie and is known to have said that he hated, “Young Americans”.

But this hasn’t stopped Dylan stealing Bowie’s musicians over the years – Mick Ronson played for both (Ziggy and Rolling Thunder) as did Charlie Sexton (Glass Spider Tour and Never Ending Tour). I’ve also heard a rumour that Dylan wanted Bowie to produce the “Infidels” album before Mark Knoffler was brought on board.

In 1976 Bowie gave an interview to Playboy where he discussed an earlier meeting with Dylan:

PLAYBOY: You’re not noted for cordial relationships with other artists. Yet there was the rumor that you flew to Europe to spend a sabbatical with Bob Dylan. What about it?

BOWIE: That’s a beaut. I haven’t even left this bloody country in years. I saw Dylan in New York seven, eight months ago. We don’t have a lot to talk about. We’re not great friends. Actually, I think he hates me.

PLAYBOY: Under what circumstances did you meet?

BOWIE: Very bad ones. We went back to somebody’s house after some gig at a club. We had all gone to see someone. I can’t remember who, and Dylan was there. I was in a very, sort of…verbose frame of mind. And I just talked at him for hours and hours and hours, and whether I amused him or scared him or repulsed him, I really don’t know. I didn’t wait for any answers. I just went on and on about everything. And then I said goodnight. He never phoned me.

PLAYBOY: Did he impress you?

BOWIE: Not really. I’d just like to know what the young chap thought of me. I was quite convinced that what I had to say was important, which I seem to feel all the time. It’s been quite awhile since someone really impressed me.

I can’t find any examples of Dylan covering Bowie or even of them both covering the same song (although Bob doing “Life On Mars” would be magical!). Over the years Bowie has proven himself to be pretty good at picking covers (if you ignore “God Only Knows”!!) making songs such as “Sorrow” and “Wild Is The Wind” his own. Even in the later part of his career he was pulling out such well picked numbers such as “Try Some Buy Some” (Harrison), “I’ve Been Waiting For You” (Young), “Waterloo Sunset” (Kinks) and “I Know Its Gonna Happen Someday” (Morrissey).

He has also covered Dylan on a number of occasions.

First up is a 1989 standalone single by his band Tin Machine – “Maggie’s Farm”

 

This was follow in 1994 with a version of “Like A Rolling Stone” appearing on Mick Ronson’s 1994 posthumous “Heaven and Hull” album

Two further Dylan covers have since surfaced, both remain officially unreleased.

First up is “Make You Feel My Love”, I have no information on when this is from or why it was recorded but it is thrilling!

 

Lastly we have “Tryin’ To Get To Heaven”. This was recorded as a potential bonus track for a live album to be called “Live And Well”. Virgin eventually balked at the idea of a live album as the previous studio album “Earthling” hadn’t sold particularly well and the supporting tour had mainly played clubs and small theatres. There is talk of the “Live and Well” album finally being released this year (as part of the ongoing series of Bowie album box sets). This would be welcome news for this Bowie and Dylan fan!

 

I have to be honest here, and admit that my whole reason for writing this article was to present these last two tracks to a wider audience. I love them both as much as I love both artists.

For me, it would be the Champions League Final, high scoring draw, with extra time and penalties…and I will not be drawn on who the winner is!

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10 Comments

  1. the cover of ‘make you feel my love’ is just a fake: that is absolutely not David Bowie, but just a person that is known to impersonate him on youtube! And it’s easy see it on the youtube account,Good Lord,DB could sing much better than that,come on…
    And I’m a huge BD fan rather than a DB great fan,why do we have to criticize one or another,though: each one in his own unique way is great

  2. Ok I admit I was taken In by the make you feel my love cover. Guess I didn’t check the account, it is pretty good though.

    I don’t think there is any criticism of either… I am a massive fan of both. This is just a look at any times their careers might have crossed over

  3. Bowie was way ahead of Dylan. Always. Bowie is the better singer, better entertainer and he also looked (much) better. He changed his style every decade and changed the music and the way we see and feel music. Dylan did not change since 1965. Dylan is great too – but Bowie is in his very own league. Forever and ever.

  4. Agreed!!!!
    Bowie was one of the greats, but Dylan, in my opinion, was revolutionary to the music scene

  5. And interesting fact to note is that Bowie always sought Dylan’s approbation though Bob never sought his. This is evidence by his Song For Bob Dylan (tribute) and his trying to impressive him at the party he mentions. Bob is light years ahead of David in terms of output and longevity, but he is also every bit as enigmatic. If you look at Bowie’s version of Like A Rolling Stone, it is a bit pedestrian, a bit trite, he can’t handle the song really. However, I would say they both have the same cultural significance, and Bowie will always be the cheekier of the two.

  6. david never wanted Dylan’s approbation. in the part of the interview bowie says that he could have talked dylan for hours and hours, he talked to dylan so much. After that, david said goodnight but bob did not even phoned him, a bit of respect with the big boy (bowie) would have been good coming from dylan. anyway, what i wanted to say is that Bowie had never need any approbation coming from whoever. Bowie knew what he’s done with his marvelous music and his brilliant voice

  7. Thing is Bowie sets this up from the start with the Hunky Dory track. 1 point to Bowie, but I don’t think he would see it as a competition. I would call them both geniuses but personally I don’t have a single Dylan record while my Bowie collection is just about complete. I’m a muso so Bowie’s songwriting is simply more interesting, and there was the groundbreaking instrumental work too in Berlin. Dylan was more the wordsmith. “Song for Bob Dylan” runs straight out of “Andy Warhol” and I think they are paired together like that because that is what Bowie intended. Because everything isn’t hunky- dory.

  8. Dylan paid a nice tribute to Bowie on his Theme Time Radio – Episode 49 Death and Taxes were he plays Rock n Roll Suicide. He speaks about Bowie respectfully at both the intro to the song and after the song. Worth listening to if you are curious about what Dylan thought of Bowie. You can hear it here:

    http://www.themetimeradio.com/episode-49-death-taxes/

    The Bowie bit is around 46 mins in.

  9. One is a troubadour who inspired a trail blazer, the other is a Space God standing on the shoulders of giants.
    It’s nice to know heros also have heros.
    Those who come first aren’t obliged to penetrate into who they inspire.
    Meanwhile Dylan has never been known for his graciousness – let’s face it, genius or not, the man is a bit of a dick.
    Bowie, on the other hand, genuinely had this way of caring about every human being he ever met. And it must get a little lonely when you are always the best thing in any room. Dylan gave him someone to look up too, and wasn’t particularly kind about having that role ~ at least that’s what I hear when I read that story.
    To put it in even more simplistic terms, Dylan is an introvert, forced into extroversion to make his art.
    Bowie was the precise opposite.
    I know who’s music I would rather listen to & who I would rather be stranded on a desert island with.

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